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	<title>Comments on: Installing NextStep 3.3 on VMWare 6</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.wiseontech.com/hack/installing-nextstep-33-on-vmware-6/comment-page-1#comment-3801</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got it working in VB under Snow Leopard, using OS type: Linux/Linux 2.4. Still trying to figure out how to get the screen resolution up beyond 640x480.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got it working in VB under Snow Leopard, using OS type: Linux/Linux 2.4. Still trying to figure out how to get the screen resolution up beyond 640&#215;480.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.wiseontech.com/hack/installing-nextstep-33-on-vmware-6/comment-page-1#comment-3771</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No luck installing under Virtualbox 3.1.0 on Snow Leopard.
Can&#039;t mount root partition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No luck installing under Virtualbox 3.1.0 on Snow Leopard.<br />
Can&#8217;t mount root partition.</p>
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		<title>By: kono</title>
		<link>http://www.wiseontech.com/hack/installing-nextstep-33-on-vmware-6/comment-page-1#comment-3668</link>
		<dc:creator>kono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From OPENSTEP, I fixed /NextLibraries/Devices/{EIDE,System}.config/Instance0.table, and NEXTSTEP worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From OPENSTEP, I fixed /NextLibraries/Devices/{EIDE,System}.config/Instance0.table, and NEXTSTEP worked.</p>
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		<title>By: kono</title>
		<link>http://www.wiseontech.com/hack/installing-nextstep-33-on-vmware-6/comment-page-1#comment-3667</link>
		<dc:creator>kono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OPENSTEP4.2J is working fine on VMWare Fusion 3.0 with http://www.moldus.org/~laurent/GNUstep/OS42_Install.html

But NEXTSTEP3.3J on VMWare Fusion 3.0 is has a problem. It won&#039;t find root device in reboot after the installation. But you can run a kernel from floppy disk with root device directive.
   Boot: fd()mach_kernel rootdev=hd0a
but still PS2 driver is not so good.

Or, you can quit software installer, at the final stage of the installation, it you give Terminal access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OPENSTEP4.2J is working fine on VMWare Fusion 3.0 with <a href="http://www.moldus.org/~laurent/GNUstep/OS42_Install.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.moldus.org/~laurent/GNUstep/OS42_Install.html</a></p>
<p>But NEXTSTEP3.3J on VMWare Fusion 3.0 is has a problem. It won&#8217;t find root device in reboot after the installation. But you can run a kernel from floppy disk with root device directive.<br />
   Boot: fd()mach_kernel rootdev=hd0a<br />
but still PS2 driver is not so good.</p>
<p>Or, you can quit software installer, at the final stage of the installation, it you give Terminal access.</p>
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		<title>By: Hermanus</title>
		<link>http://www.wiseontech.com/hack/installing-nextstep-33-on-vmware-6/comment-page-1#comment-3061</link>
		<dc:creator>Hermanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have been trying all suggestions on this site and a few other I could find by using google, I can&#039;t get it to work :(, is it possible for someone to send me a clean installation of the vmware image of nextstep 3.3? e-mail is imbu@mac.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have been trying all suggestions on this site and a few other I could find by using google, I can&#8217;t get it to work <img src='http://www.wiseontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> , is it possible for someone to send me a clean installation of the vmware image of nextstep 3.3? e-mail is <a href="mailto:imbu@mac.com">imbu@mac.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got got the network working! My trouble came from importing an old VMWare image created on VMWare 3. In this image I used the AMD network driver and somehow Fusion did take over this setting. It could not be changed in the VMWare Fusion GUI however (like lots of special stuff VMWare choose not to confuse the mere mortals with it ;)).

To resolve change a single line in the VMWare image (which is actually a hidden directory, use Terminal.app on MacOSX and cd into it). In IMAGENAME.vmx (where IMAGENAME is the name of your VMWare image) there is the line 

ethernet0.virtualDev = &quot;e1000&quot;

just delete it and vmxnet loads happily. This should only be needed if you import an old VMWare image (pre 4.5) into a newer VM and you have used the AMD Network driver previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got got the network working! My trouble came from importing an old VMWare image created on VMWare 3. In this image I used the AMD network driver and somehow Fusion did take over this setting. It could not be changed in the VMWare Fusion GUI however (like lots of special stuff VMWare choose not to confuse the mere mortals with it <img src='http://www.wiseontech.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
<p>To resolve change a single line in the VMWare image (which is actually a hidden directory, use Terminal.app on MacOSX and cd into it). In IMAGENAME.vmx (where IMAGENAME is the name of your VMWare image) there is the line </p>
<p>ethernet0.virtualDev = &#8220;e1000&#8243;</p>
<p>just delete it and vmxnet loads happily. This should only be needed if you import an old VMWare image (pre 4.5) into a newer VM and you have used the AMD Network driver previously.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I just tried to get NS 3.3 up and running on VMWare Fusion 2.01 - everything seems to work great, except the network. On booting it gives me a config space error in the boot log for the VMXNet driver (1.3 used) and aborts loading the driver. Had anyone the same problem and solved it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I just tried to get NS 3.3 up and running on VMWare Fusion 2.01 &#8211; everything seems to work great, except the network. On booting it gives me a config space error in the boot log for the VMXNet driver (1.3 used) and aborts loading the driver. Had anyone the same problem and solved it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;ve got NS 3.3 up and running on VMware Fusion, with a little bit of help from this blog post (I&#039;ve had it running in VMware previously—several years ago, but had long since forgotten the magic order of getting the drivers loaded).

It&#039;s worth noting that you&#039;ll probably want to install the Y2K patch from Apple (which takes you to 3.3p3), so that your VM doesn&#039;t think it&#039;s 1994…

My only snag now is that I&#039;ve lost my copy of the Developer CD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;ve got NS 3.3 up and running on VMware Fusion, with a little bit of help from this blog post (I&#8217;ve had it running in VMware previously—several years ago, but had long since forgotten the magic order of getting the drivers loaded).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth noting that you&#8217;ll probably want to install the Y2K patch from Apple (which takes you to 3.3p3), so that your VM doesn&#8217;t think it&#8217;s 1994…</p>
<p>My only snag now is that I&#8217;ve lost my copy of the Developer CD!</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time for an update on my progress. I am happy to report that I now have a complete NEXTSTEP (NS) 3.3 system (with Developer) running on VMWare Workstation 6.5. My VMWare Workstation is running on an x86_64 based dual processor Linux box running RHEL 5.2. It&#039;s been a long road for me, but the result is quite amazing. My sincere thanks to Jonathan for providing critical information on this web site that got me going in the right direction.

All of the problem areas: display, mouse, network, and sound are working. There are clearly some challenges in completing the installation. For example getting the VMMouse driver installed while the defective default driver is still running is one example. There are also several &quot;non-obvious&quot; bits of information that are needed, such as the need to change the &quot;virtual network host adapter&quot; to match the driver specifically written for NS. In the process I have bundled all of the needed drivers and packages (including the final NS updates) into a single CD iso for convenience of installation. I am guessing that with a bit of work it might even be possible to modify the initial installation data (on floppy images) to circumvent the need to post-install the needed drivers -- or at least make it easier.

One of the best aspects of running NS on modern hardware is that it performs (at least on VMWare) *much* better (meaning faster) than it ever did back in 1995... on either black or white hardware. The use of networking and NFS makes the 2 GB limit on the installation disk space much less important for real world applications. NS of doesn&#039;t care about the size of the disk space on NFS mounts, and the network setup is very clean with the NFSManager application . NFS is also the most practical way to get data in and out of the virtual NS machine. It has been fun re-learning the amazing (still) advanced features of NS. I also have an entirely practical need in reviving an old but still useful NS application that I helped develop.

I have documented my path to installation, and I would be glad to share this with interested folks (along with any assembled open-source/access drivers, etc.).  With Jonathan&#039;s help this can probably be arranged.

A comment to David on the display darkness -- the video adapter and driver on NS  needs to be matched with the color depth actually running on your host machine. I noticed this color distortion affect with one installation that I made. The color depth cannot (afaik) be changed on the NS system, so it must be changed to match on the host system.  When I corrected the color depth of the Linux host system (to:8/8/8-32) the problem went away. I would guess that your Windows system is by default using the correct color depth to match the virtual machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time for an update on my progress. I am happy to report that I now have a complete NEXTSTEP (NS) 3.3 system (with Developer) running on VMWare Workstation 6.5. My VMWare Workstation is running on an x86_64 based dual processor Linux box running RHEL 5.2. It&#8217;s been a long road for me, but the result is quite amazing. My sincere thanks to Jonathan for providing critical information on this web site that got me going in the right direction.</p>
<p>All of the problem areas: display, mouse, network, and sound are working. There are clearly some challenges in completing the installation. For example getting the VMMouse driver installed while the defective default driver is still running is one example. There are also several &#8220;non-obvious&#8221; bits of information that are needed, such as the need to change the &#8220;virtual network host adapter&#8221; to match the driver specifically written for NS. In the process I have bundled all of the needed drivers and packages (including the final NS updates) into a single CD iso for convenience of installation. I am guessing that with a bit of work it might even be possible to modify the initial installation data (on floppy images) to circumvent the need to post-install the needed drivers &#8212; or at least make it easier.</p>
<p>One of the best aspects of running NS on modern hardware is that it performs (at least on VMWare) *much* better (meaning faster) than it ever did back in 1995&#8230; on either black or white hardware. The use of networking and NFS makes the 2 GB limit on the installation disk space much less important for real world applications. NS of doesn&#8217;t care about the size of the disk space on NFS mounts, and the network setup is very clean with the NFSManager application . NFS is also the most practical way to get data in and out of the virtual NS machine. It has been fun re-learning the amazing (still) advanced features of NS. I also have an entirely practical need in reviving an old but still useful NS application that I helped develop.</p>
<p>I have documented my path to installation, and I would be glad to share this with interested folks (along with any assembled open-source/access drivers, etc.).  With Jonathan&#8217;s help this can probably be arranged.</p>
<p>A comment to David on the display darkness &#8212; the video adapter and driver on NS  needs to be matched with the color depth actually running on your host machine. I noticed this color distortion affect with one installation that I made. The color depth cannot (afaik) be changed on the NS system, so it must be changed to match on the host system.  When I corrected the color depth of the Linux host system (to:8/8/8-32) the problem went away. I would guess that your Windows system is by default using the correct color depth to match the virtual machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wise</title>
		<link>http://www.wiseontech.com/hack/installing-nextstep-33-on-vmware-6/comment-page-1#comment-2944</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey David,
Glad to hear you got the video drivers working! I updated my &quot;You&#039;ll need at least&quot; list to include that disk, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David,<br />
Glad to hear you got the video drivers working! I updated my &#8220;You&#8217;ll need at least&#8221; list to include that disk, thanks!</p>
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